Lucifer and Satan... One and the Same?

[Prince Beelzebub]

Lucifer and Satan... One and the Same?

I don't believe they were different, but after more research I found that they are really 2 different names for the same entity or aspects of the same entity or force. Lucifer means light bringer and Satan means adversary. Both these descriptions apply to the entity/force/archetype we Luciferians or Satanists seek connection with are the same entity. I can even prove it to you all.

The names Lucifer and Satan in later Hebrew and in Christian beliefs, the supreme spirit of evil, who for immeasurable time has ruled over a kingdom of evil spirits and is in constant opposition against jehovah for the mass murders that he caused. The word Lucifer and Satan is derived, via the ecclesiastical Latin word diabolus, from the Greek word diabolos, an adjective meaning ‘'slanderous,” used also in ancient Greek as a noun to identify a person as a slanderer. The term was used in the Greek translation of the Bible, the Septuagint, not to refer to human beings, but rather to translate the Hebrew ha-satan (“the satan”), an expression originally used as the title of a member of the divine court who functioned as jehovah's roving spy, gathering intelligence about human beings from his travels on earth. Because aspects of this heavenly figure were probably drawn from experience with agents of ancient Middle Eastern royal secret services, it is not surprising that the word "SATAN" should also be seen as a character who attempts to provoke punishable sedition where he finds none, thus acting as an adversary for jehovah and the human beings on earth, bent on separating them from jehovah due to Satan seeing jehovah killing the people of the earth and Satan rebelling against jehovah for the mass killings and genocide by flood, plague and famine ect. In all speculation about Satan, the major problem being addressed is that of the origin and nature of EVIL, (q.v.).
Minding you that Satan rebelling against jehovah was because he did not see killing innocent people of the earth just because they deified jehovah and Satan ask the other ark angels of heaven to join him in his fight against jehovah's mass genocide murders and most of them did. Even tho they new they were out numbered 10 to 6 against jehovh's top arch angel Michael. However the rest of the angel's who turned against jehovah
for the slayings are the one's we now know today by names like Satan and hells army listed respectfully in order below.

Abaddon : Hebrew root meaning "to destroy", same as Apollyon
Apollyon (Abaddon) : The King of Demons Rev 9:11
Abigor : Christian demonology - commands 60 legions
Adramelech: Arch Demon whose name means, "King of Fire"
Agares : First Duke of the East, commands 31 legions; appears willingly
Alocer : Strong Duke commands 36 legions; lion's face, dressed as a knight on a horse
Amduscius : Great Duke, governs 29 legions; looks like a unicorn
Andras : Marquesse, commands 30 legions; bird head with angel-like wings
Asmoday : Prince of demons; thought to be the serpent that deceived Eve
Asmodeus : Demon of wrath, banished by Raphael in the Book of Tobit 8:3
Astaroth : Strong Duke over 40 legions and the treasurer of hell
Aym : Great Duke, who commands 26 legions; from christian demonology
Ayperos : Prince, commands 36 legions; from christian demonoly
Azazel : Chief of the goat-demons or "hairy demons"
Bael : Head of the Infernal Armies of 66 legions
Balam : Terrible king with three heads and commands 40 legions
Beelzebub : Prince of Demons, aka Lord of the Flies, former highest ranking angel in heaven
Belial : Chief of all devils, brings about wickedness and guilt
Belphegor : Demon or "god" of the Moabites, Numbers 25
Berith : Great Duke of hell who governs 26 legions, appears as a red soldier on a red horse
Bifrons : declares the understanding of geometry, astrology and other arts
Botis : Appears as a viper, and proclaims the past and future
Buer : President of hell, of the second order, and commands 50 legions
Caym : Great President who takes the shape of a thrush; rules 30 legions
Charon : The boat man who brings souls across the river Styx
Cresil : Demon of impurity and laziness
Crocell : Grand Duke who appears as an angel, and governs 48 legions
Deumos : Female demon with 4 horns and a crown
Eurynome : Superior demon who feeds on corpses; the Prince of Death
Focalor : Grand Duke who drowns men and overthrows ships of war
Furfur : Count of hell, commands 26 legions; appears as angel with a flaming tail
Gaap : Prince of hell, intensifies love and hatred; transporter demon
Geryon : Giant centaur, guardian of hell
Haures : Strong Duke of hell, commands 20 legions and is very frightful with eye aflame
Ipos : Demon count of hell who commands 36 legions; looks like a lion-headed angel
Jezebeth : Demon of falsehoods and lies
Kasdeya : From the "Book of Enoch", the 5th Satan
Kobal : Demon of hilarity
Leonard : Master of black magic and sorcery
Leviathan : Dragon of the Sea, the Crooked Serpent of the abyss
Lilith : Demon of waste.
Lucifer : Light bearer, son of the morning; former seraphim cast out of heaven
Malphas : Grand president of hell, commands 40 legions; appears as a raven
Mammon : Demon of avarice
Mastema : Leader of fallen angels whose job is to tempt men to sin and accuse them before God
Melchom : Demon who carries the money purse; payer of servants
Mephistopheles : Another name for the devil in the Middle Ages
Merihim : Dark Prince of pestilence
Moloch : Demon worshipped by the Israelites through child sacrifice
Mullin : Demon lieutenant of the demon Leonard
Murmur : Great Duke, comes with trumpets sounding and rules 30 legions
Naberius : Strong demon in charge of 29 legions, a Marquis of hell
Nergal : Second order demon, commands the secret police
Nicor : Water demon known for drowning humans; can cause hurricanes, tempests and the like
Nybbas : Manager of visions and dreams, inferior order charlatan
Nysrogh : Second order demon, chief of the house of princes
Oriax : Marquis, demon who commands 30 legions; teaches astrology
Ornias : name of the harassing demon
Ose : Great President, governs 30 legions
Paymon : a king of hell, master of ceremonies; governs 200 legions
Philatanus : Demon who assists Belial in sodomy and pedophile behaviors
Proserpine : aka Persephone, princess of hell
Pruflas : head of 26 legions, has the head of an owl; provokes wars and quarrels
Pyro : Prince of falsehoods and lies
Raum : Count or Great Earle, commands 30 legions; seen as a crow
Rimmon : aka Damas, an ambassador from hell
Ronove : Marquis of hell, commanding 19 legions, teaches languages
Ronwe : Inferior demon, commands 19 legions
Samael : demon angel of death, prince of the power of the air
Semiazas : Chief demon of fallen angels
Shax : Duke of hell, commanding 30 legions, deceitful thief; appears as a stork
Shalbriri : Demon of blindness
Sonneillon : Demon of hatred
Stolas : High prince of hell, commanding 26 legions; teacher of astronomy and plant properties
Succorbenoth : Chief eunuch, sexless, demon of gates
Thamuz : Ambassador of hell, demon master of big weapons
Ukobach : Inferior demon who maintains the fires of hell; appears ablaze
Uphir : Demon physician
Uvall : Duke, commanding 36 legions, knows the past, present and future; strong and scary
Valafar : Strong Duke, commands 10 legions, appears in the shape of a lion
Vepar : Grand Duke, strong; guide of waters, like a mermaid
Verdelet : Master of ceremonies
Verin : Demon of impatience
Vetis : Demon of corruption
Xaphan : Second order demon, former fallen angel, fans the furnace flames
Zagan : Demon King, deceitful, commands 33 legions
Zepar : Grand Duke, appears as a soldier, commanding 26 legions
Zeal, : Demon of toxic air and brim stone of flames
And many, many more joined Satan in the fight against jehovah!.

In later Jewish tradition, and thus also in early Christians thought, the title becomes a proper name; Satan begins to be seen as an adversary not only to jews and Christian beings but also—and even primarily—of jehovah. This development is probably a result of the influence of Persian dualistic philosophy, with its opposing powers of good (Ormazd) and evil (Ahriman). But in both Jewish and Christian systems, the dualism is always provisional or temporary, the devil being ultimately subject to jehovah. In the writings of the Qumran sect the devil AKA Satan emerges as Belial, the Spirit of Wickedness against Jews and Christian but that's what Jewish tradition and Christian thought of Lucifer, Satan in witch are the same demon.

In some strains of rabbinic thought, Satan is linked with the “evil impulse to fight jehovah for the genocide agenst man kind,” which is thus personified to some degree. This personification is a Jewish form of the widespread and ancient assumption that human beings can be subjected to malevolent forces distinct from their conscious minds. Thus, both in Judaism and in Christianity the belief is found that human beings can be “possessed” by the devil or by his subordinates, the demons. Only a true follower of Satan will never be attacked by any of Satan and Satan's underworld demons.
Since it is an unholy war against jehovah and christianity and their beliefs only. Satanist will never be harmed by “possession or possesed” by demons. Satan sees christianity and Jews as a evil foe and Satan and his subordinates, the demons will only possess and attack people who are Jews and christians. This has been proven time and time again and history even proves this to us.

Perhaps the core of Satan teaching about jehovah and about the Christians is that Jesus Christ tried to brake the grip he and jehovah and his Jewish people faced by demons have on the whole of Jewish humanity (the “possession” of some is a symptom of the general domination of all Jewish and christians alike ), and that in the crucifixion the devil AKA Satan and his henchmen, working their worst on all Jewish and christians, were doomed, paradoxically, to ultimate defeat by jehovah. Also known as paradise lost due to jehovah and due to jehovah we as people and Satanist must suffer due to jehovah as a sick genocide mass murder that he is and will always be!...

In the Middle Ages the devil played important roles in art and in folklore, being almost always seen as an evil, impulsive animal-human with a tail and horns, sometimes accompanied by subordinate devils. The thought that the latter could take up residence in human beings served more frequently to differentiate the possessed from the normal than to indicate something about the state of all humanity in the world today as we see it.

The complexity, mystery, and corporate nature of evil have caused some thinkers to believe that a place must be found for the devil even in modern thought. J.L.Ma., J. LOUIS MARTYN, M.A., Ph.D.

[Dalton Miller]

in my belief, and this is in my belief, satan was the brash and brutal brother of Lucifer, the light bearer, the calm and wise. Therefore there is both darkness and light.

[Prince Beelzebub]

Well that's what is says in my book what their old bio was when they left heaven when they were fighting jehovah long before adam and eve. Also long before lilith was with adam.

[Prince Beelzebub]

Oh and just so you know adam's wife was lilith before eve!.

[Revanchist]

I hate to break it to ya but not everything you google or watch on television is true. Sometimes you have to sort out the truth in the mess that it comes with.

[Whippet]

i still think its up to the way we percieve lucifer and not some book...cool book but it has no meaning to the question.i personally believe they are both in 1 entity along with more but i like to think of them all as different sides to him..sort of like different moods

[Hunniedust]

This became my question 10 months ago. There is so much more info. I find it depends on what you are reading so many people go out of their way to prove points I think one should never settle for one rendition. But for the most part most of my findings are that they are not one in the same.

First looking I found the Romans had a Luciferian worship where they worshiped the morning star "Lucifer", which later became what is now known as Venus.
I find that many descriptions of Lucifer seem to also carry the attributes Jesus. I have found that later like in the 2nd century or so there was another luciferian worship later to further instill fear an maintain control of the people it was called satanism when it was not.
I find it for me becomes a bit confusing when you get to the time period of Albert Pike some writings refer to him as a satanist, I have found a writing where Pike deems Satanism herersy an claims Lucifer to be true god of light an Adonay the true god of evil. He goes a step further in saying Lucifer an Adonay are the same, Pike has to me an interesting view of Lucifer/Adonay. But Pike makes clear that Satan an Lucifer are not the same. For me there is no solid history for Lucifer. It seems Lucifer has been seen in so many different ways there seems no historical consistancy ....... but that is only my opinion taken from various places, it is not my intent to present anyting as fact only personal opinion.

[Dalton Miller]

whippet, thats not a new belief man. i am luciferian, and thats a pretty damn close ideal to what we believe.