Lying

[Mitokht]

Is it ok to be a liar if your a Satanist? im new to all of this but I want to know fromyou.

[Slackmaster Sinner]

It depends on the lie. If your lying to yourself you are only doing damage to your ability to function free. Xtians lie to themselves everyday and make excuses on why that lie is real. As a Satanist you dont desire to fall into the same trappings as an Xtian.

As a Satanist I tell more truth than ever. I have nothing to hide anymore. Im a drug addict, pervert, professional blasphemer. I have skeletons in the closet yet I dont guard them so closely because my lifestyle justifies my demons. My sex life is my business and I dont go out telling people details, yet some how every one finds out anyway.

What is the status of the one you are lying to. Dont go out of your to tell the truth to an asshole or douchebag (or vampire). But those who matter to you, honesty is always the best policy.

[Whippet]

To me it depends on what the lie is all about...if its a silly little thing then theres no point but if it serves a purpose of acually keeping you on flat ground.example i wouldnt lie about who I am or what my past was like but i would lie about something that keeps me safe from something that would affect my future in any way..something like lying for the sake of a friendship depending on how serious it was..id be straight up front if it was neccessary but not if its just something which would cause a silly little arguement...the thing about lies is they stick and become alot more revealed depending on how you can cope with keeping one..you always find out when people are lying when u keep bringing up the subject which the lie was based on.this shows the weakness of the persons mental tolerance which gives alot of signs by thier behaviour and reactions...the truth is my personal favourite as it keeps you from being a scumbag

[Mister_Six]

It's obvious you don't have a solid grasp on what it means to call yourself a "Satanist". I completely dumped the title thanks to people like you that think Satan would advocate they lie to people. Satanists don't really go off of the concept of Satan as much as they go off the concept of Lucifer which is world of difference. No one can argue that a LaVeyan Satanist's concept of lesser magic is manipulation, and with manipulation can include lying, but it doesn't have to. The main premise of Satanism is that you are the God of your own subjective universe, and if that godhead you create for yourself says it's okay to lie then so be it. However it is not necessary. Satan and Lucifer have been referred to in xtian texts as the "father of lies" but he never once lies to anyone in the bible if you actually sit down and read it. Lucifer is honest, as he should be. There are such people as trendy Satanists, don't buy into their hype.

[NARCISSUS]

i dont really have an opinion on this, but im here to say im with mister six on this one. dont feel like you're obligated to lie, because you think that's what satanists are suppose to do in order to be satanic.

[Aye Maung]

It all depends on the situation. You should not lie to yourself, you should not lie to your loved ones to some extent, you should not lie without a good purpose. If you're like a con-man from Ocean's Eleven, sure why not. If you are a teacher or a parent, no.

[Night Ankh]

I would have to say definitely NO, it's NOT OK to be a liar...to those that matter to you, most of all. I have issues with hypocrisy, and choose integrity, unlike many of my x-tian counterparts. The truth, though brutal as it may be, is how I run, for the most part, but it all depends on who I am dealing with at the time. At work, I'm brutally honest, even when I fuck up, I own up to it. With friends, they want to hear nothing but the truth, so I provide that there too...actually, the more I think about it, I'm finding it harder to find a good reason to lie. I believe in the motto, Responsibility to the Responsible, so that sort of explains how I view this ethic.
Also, as I'm not female, I'm not very good at keeping stories straight, NO offense meant to ANY females out there, I respect that talent, it's just not one I posses. The simple truth seems to work best for me.
Yet, this is only MY perspective. I would have to say that what you choose to do for you, is just that. I really don't think there is a specific quote about lying in the SB, specifically, and it's not really a book to tell one what they should or should not DO, but rather a basic philosophy on how to live ones life better...IF it's for the individual. I only know what has worked for me, for the last 29 years.
Best of luck figuring out what works best for you!
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[Leo-Gonzo Satanist]

I would only add at this point that it has been an unparalleled feeling of satisfaction for me to know how much it burns people's asses in my neck of the woods to have to deal with the fact that the most honest person in the room is the Satanist

[Mister_Six]

I'm not even xtain and sometimes I'm talked of as a better xtian than most! LOL! The funny thing is no religion can lay claim to ethical human conduct and most satanists think that they can lay claim to wishy washy, amoral, fickle behavior. The Bad Boy Badge is just as worthless as The Good Guy Badge. Neither is better than the other.

[Leo-Gonzo Satanist]

To clarify, this isn't about the "Good Guy or Bad Guy Badge". It is my personal response to a world that spins it's axis on bullshit. Parents, teachers, clergy, government, advertisers, your loved ones, historical records, and on and on. Lying liars. So my adversarial response, brutal honesty. Throws everybody for a fucking loop.
Think those pants make your ass look fat? Don't ask me.
New hairstyle? Don't ask me.
I do not play the part of diplomat.

[Night Ankh]

I'm with you on this one too Leo. My heart swells with Satanic Pride when I speak the truth that others may not want to hear, but they know it's correct. I can honestly say I have more integrity than MANY members of my own family who claim to be all 'righteous.' I feel these two ethics go hand in hand. Mayhap we Satanists tend to hold ourselves to a somewhat higher standard than most of the sheeple out there.

[Night Ankh]

Well, I must make an addition to one of my previous statements, when I said that I couldn't think of any good reason to lie. I came across a situation, while at a concert, where a rude, overbearing, jackass started trying to get in me and my friend's business. I spun a tale that impressed even me, as it flowed like honey off my lips. It was completly spur of the moment, and without any thought, I wove a story that I'm sure his drunken mind would hardly be able to recall, if and when he ever sobered up. So, on the topic of lying, I stand corrected. To those worthless scumbags of the world who are not worth my time, that choose to try and start shit, I feel NO obligation giving them even the slightest bit of truth, and did so gleefully.

[Leo-Gonzo Satanist]

Got a point. Less than human deserves less from us. Fair enough.